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Who Won the Vice Presidential Debate Thursday?

The undercard usually doesn't make or break an election, but with the race so close this vice presidential debate may carry more weight than most.

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A few hours before he debated Rep. Paul Ryan Thursday night, Vice President Joe Biden (or a 22-year-old campaign staffer in Chicago) sent the following message to supporters: 

"I told Barack I have one mission tonight: tell the truth and stand up for what we believe in. Our side is always going to win when we do that."

Biden's team needed a win. Mitt Romney emerged from last week's debate with more momentum than he's had in nearly two years of campaigning. So, what do you think, who won Thursday night's showdown, Biden or Ryan? 

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nick mastick April 28, 2013 at 09:34 pm
Of all the concerns in our society, I put this just about dead last.
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Steven Murphy April 17, 2013 at 02:25 am
Hmm. So I think you're telling me I need to add the countdown timers to the long list of Berkeley…Read More idiosyncrasies I need to ignore? I guess can do that. Thanks. --Murph
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This is very interesting. I bicycle and walk a lot around Berkeley. I think i know exactly what…Read More signal is being referred to the walk sign across Bancroft at MLK specifically will reset itself. many of the walk signals rely on induction loops which are loops placed in the ground that can detect Bicycles and Cars when the Bicycles or cars pass over them disrupting the current. You can often see these loops as they look like hexagonal saw cuts in the ground. Anyways the intersection detects traffic with these devices & if it doesn't detect anything then it assumes nothing is there and gives right of way to the major throughway in this case being MLK. So the reason the counter to cross Bancroft resets itself is totally logical because the intersection suspects no one is there and since that side of Bancroft is more or less residential there would be no point in setting that intersection to a timer where it gives priority to one light then the other & switches based on that & not on wether it detects any bicycles or cars passing over the induction loops. Also this is Berkeley and we are rather quirky and always have been so nobody exactly fallows the rules or knows about them its funny how simple crossing the street really is but its anything but simple in reality. Many people choose to jay walk if its safe to do so, this is typical on Shattuck at alston especially and makes sense for efficiency but isn't very safe or lawful. If the hand is flashing/Counting down dont cross!
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