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Poll: Lawmakers Send Governor Bill to Protect Illegal Immigrants

The Trust Act prohibits local cops from holding arrestees at the request of ICE in certain cases.

The State Legislature sent Gov. Jerry Brown a bill Friday that would prohibit local law enforcement from holding arrestees at the request of federal immigration authorities. 

Known as the Trust Act, AB1081 by Tom Ammiano of San Francisco makes an exception for violent and serious criminals, but was opposed by the California State Sheriffs' Association. The bill's target is a program run by the United States Immigration and Custom Enforcement called Secure Communities, which has the stated goal of prioritizing "the removal of criminal aliens, those who pose a threat to public safety, and repeat immigration violators." 

Critics of Secure Communities argue that the policy enlists local law enforcement in a process that victimizes innocent people and erodes trust with immigrant communities. 

The bill passed the Assembly floor Friday on a 48-26 vote. 

According to the "Los Angeles Times," Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca plans to defy the Trust Act if it becomes law. What do you think local law enforcement should do if Governor Brown signs the bill into law? 

Barbara Fiorica August 28, 2012 at 09:53 pm
Part I
Why is it, that predominently leftist fanatics resort to name-calling when they do not have any facts to back up their arguments? (Some woman (who I know) and I were discussing the fact that Donald Trump was demanding to see Obama's birth cert-remember that? And because I agreed that he should show his birth cert as all Presidents are required to do, she said that the only reason I didn't vote for him was because he was black. Actually I liked him; however I didn't vote for him because he was a one-issue candidate.) And these folks who enter this country illegally are not just hispanics. They are from plenty of other countries as well.
Gary Etscheid August 29, 2012 at 11:28 am
Bobby is on the dole? no?
Gary Etscheid August 29, 2012 at 11:34 am
Right on K Francis.
Gary Etscheid August 29, 2012 at 11:41 am
We are a Nation of LAWS. Obey them.
Robert Livesay August 29, 2012 at 11:47 am
It appears the American citizens have spoken. We just won this one big time. The Gov will more than likely sign the bill. So what some in California think they are not part of American any way. Sorry Mike.
Jason August 29, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The American citizenry spoke when we overwhelmingly passed prop 187.
Susan D.Keeffe August 29, 2012 at 01:22 pm
Robert,
I do not believe the "liberal middle class" is either rich or necessarily "liberal". What statistical evidence do you have to support that claim? I know from personal experience I used to argue with a friend who is a middle class senior citizen with a middle class income that her illegal alien housekeeper and her anti immigrant views were at odds with each other. She knew she was breaking the law but it was more important to her to have the help with her house. She figured her little "exception" was doing no harm. At the same time she was and is a very conservative Republican and she expressed anti Hispanic views to me so often I asked her to stop doing it. I finally just stopped being friends with her. There is a lot of hypocrisy in America.
Susan D.Keeffe August 29, 2012 at 01:29 pm
We do have voter ID. iDs can be forged.
joel August 29, 2012 at 01:29 pm
Are you saying it is ok to hand out a driver';s licence to someone that has nenever seen a traffic light or sign , a road , never mind reading ?
To allow someonene to enter the US without background check , Megan Law would be futile and look forward to more 9/11 ? to allow someone that leave in underground economy ? AndI could go on , not that our own Citizen are perfect a couoples of them are going to meet their makers pretty soon for blowing the federal building in Oaklahoma . We do need somekind of enforcement , Ithink I am going to the gun store and get ready , because if the Police officers can't enforce the federal law , don't break in my house unless you do have a wood box ready . Plain and simple .
Susan D.Keeffe August 29, 2012 at 01:40 pm
If the Governor signs this bill I'm Confident it will be challenged and wind up in litigation for a very long time. In the meantime our police officers will have no choice but to obey a bad law.
Marshall Cochrane August 29, 2012 at 02:36 pm
San Diego's Sheriff William Gore eloquently states:"This is a great bill for foreigners in the United States illegally who wish to continue engaging in ID theft and a whole host of other crimes. It is a horrible bill for the legal residents of California who want the rule of law to actually mean something. California's legal residents must be able to rely on law enforcement or their state representatives to protect them from lawlessness." That says it for me.
Mike August 29, 2012 at 05:03 pm
I accept your apology for not making very much sense, Robert. Better luck next time.
Mike August 29, 2012 at 05:40 pm
I love the arguments against the Trust Act that turn to hyperbole, scare-mongering, immigrant-bashing, liberal-bashing, Obama-bashing, ad-nauseum. I haven't heard a rational argument yet that addresses any of the language of this bill or the situational implications for actual law enforcement encounters.
To sum up the arguments against this bill: "OMG, OMG, the liberal criminals who run California and don't want to be part of America are teaming up with Obama (who believes in violating the U.S. constitution and who ships guns to Mexican drug gangs) to let armies and armies of criminal foreigners freely cross the border and silently infiltrate our society and they are going make the police let them commit crimes and steal our identities and use our hospitals and food stamps and make babies so they can steal our money and steal our rights as Americans and commit all kinds of other crimes. If this bill passes the cops won't be able to stop the brown people and jail them until they prove their citizenship and that'll lead to the civil war and 9/11 combined, so we all need to buy a lot of guns and barricade ourselves in our houses and defend ourselves against the army of criminal foreigners. And if that doesn't scare you enough ALL OUR BASE BELONG TO CHINA!" Did I miss anything?
Susan D.Keeffe August 29, 2012 at 05:55 pm
Mike,
That was great! Thank you!
Robert Livesay August 29, 2012 at 06:53 pm
Mike you and Susan make no sense at all. This bill gets passed and that is it. Liberal Gov, Liberal Assemblemen against Conservative law enforcement. No way, you lose big time. This bill is a touchy feely thing to try and make folks think that these Liberals really care. This bill is so wrong maybe even the Gov got it and will veto it. We shall see.
Paul D August 29, 2012 at 08:15 pm
As Barbara so insightfully put it...
"Why is it, that predominently leftist fanatics resort to name-calling..." Honestly, you can't make this stuff up anymore.
Susan D.Keeffe August 29, 2012 at 09:06 pm
Robert,
Robert, You sure are putting lots of words in my mouth! I thought Mike's tongue-in-cheek synopsis was funny and sometimes a good sense of humor is really needed. If you are interested in my opinions, and actually want to comment on them, scroll back - they are in there. You have to scroll almost to the top to find my first post. Then you can apologize.
Chris Nicholson August 29, 2012 at 09:26 pm
Mike: the bill is clearly an "FU" to the Feds because of Sacramento's disagreement with policy matters in the Fed's jurisdiction. The feds currently ask state folks to do indirectly what the feds can do directly and legally. If the State chooses be be difficult, there are a variety of things the Feds can do to work around this obstructionism, none of which benefit anyone and likely waste taxpayoer money and/or make current immigration policy less effective by hamstringing it.
My argument against the bill is: if you don't like federal immigration policy, take it up with DC, don't throw a hissy fit. The bill simply erects road blocks to status quo immigration enforcement and advances no legitimate interest of citizens.
Redrock August 29, 2012 at 09:53 pm
Deport all of them... bring them in the right way.. one by one we'll get through it... may be we'll have to clean our own house and pool from time to time- and watch our own kids... but in 10 years we can get through this. Just think how much better and safer everything will be when everyone is a legal tax paying citizen!
Robert Livesay August 29, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Susan unless I am missing something I do believe you support the Trust Act. Although you have made comments to the contrary. I am confused. Do you support th Trust Act or any thing like it? Do you think we have an illegal immigration problem and those folks should be deported? Those question with answers could change my mind on your thinking. If you do not support it then I am wrong in judging your comments. I am not wrong about Mike the mover.
joel August 30, 2012 at 12:24 am
Be interesting if DC was to cut all funding to California , can't have it both way .
Susan D.Keeffe August 30, 2012 at 01:54 am
Robert,
I don't think you scrolled back far enough. As I stated, it's a bad bill. It puts local law enforcement in a bind and I hope the Governor doesn't sign it. If he does, as I previously stated, I think it will be challenged legally and end up tied up for a long time. Also, since federal law trumps state law I'm confident a legal challenge will ultimately win. It's a bad law. And you are reading me correctly - sort of. I'm usually to the left of center but I don't " bleed " for anyone as in " bleeding heart". a bad law is a bad law.
Robert Livesay August 30, 2012 at 11:35 am
Thanks Susan I do now understand.
Gary Etscheid August 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Sounded like mike is another race card caller from the very far left.
Barbara Fiorica September 3, 2012 at 02:37 am
I've read the Constitution as well, and no where does it state that citizens from other countries can enter illegally (without papers or border check, or those over-staying their visas) and remain here to participate in our system. In fact, the opening preamble to the Constitution states, " We the people of the United States...". Not "We the people of Mexico" or "We the people of Iran" or France or China or anywhere else. If you are not a citizen of this country or here within the time constraints of your visa, you have no rights here. Just because illegal aliens are here physically does not constitute citizenship, no payment of taxes, free housing, medical care, welfare, drivers' licenses, voting rights or anything else. And we DO have the right to deport them. If you are looking the other way by hiring illegals without doing a background check, then you are part of the problem. When we as citizens are hired for a job, you better believe that background checks, credit checks, and whatever else is deemed necessary, are performed before we are hired. Why are we not doing it for someone who may be in this country illegally? I say that is reverse discrimination.
Robert Livesay September 3, 2012 at 10:49 am
Very well said Barbara Fioricia.
Robert Livesay September 3, 2012 at 10:52 am
Sorry Barbara is should have been Fiorica. Kee Fi,
Barbara Fiorica September 4, 2012 at 03:52 am
No problem Robert. At least you were closer than most!
Jodo September 4, 2012 at 04:45 am
Here's a splendid idea. Repeal NAFTA and let Mexico develop its own businesses, not become a haven for corporate cartels, where they flush their darker skinned and unwanted indios into the US. My neighbor had a farm in Mexico with land and livestock and once NAFTA was passed, was forced to sell due to the rise prices and goods to run his farm. To this day, his wife is heartbroken and misses her family and country.
Regular Guy October 11, 2012 at 02:07 pm
Vetoed by Brown. LAPD then overruled the veto in Los Angeles:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gov-brown-vetoes-ab-1081-lapd-says-were-going-to-implement-it-anyway-172722371.html

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