Flash Poll: Ryan Pick Solidifies Ticket Differences, CA Democrats and Republicans Say

In a Patch survey, Republican activists lauded Paul Ryan for his fiscal conservatism and brainpower, while Democrats said the choice could help the Obama campaign.

California Democratic insiders are crowing about Mitt Romney’s choice of U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate, saying the pick helps the Obama campaign, according to a Patch poll conducted over the weekend.

Republicans, meanwhile, said adding Ryan to the ticket could refocus the presidential campaign on economic issues and sway undecided voters—though not enough to turn the tide in true-blue California, some said.

Patch sent survey questions to 79 Republican and 63 Democratic party activists and elected officials within 48 hours of Romney’s announcement. Twenty-one Democrats and 21 Republicans responded.

More than three-quarters of Democratic respondents said Romney’s choice of Ryan—the chairman of the House Budget Committee and a strong advocate for cutting taxes and domestic spending—would galvanize California Democrats. 

The pick “cements the image of Romney as ideologically committed to dismantling public support for middle class needs (education, health, broad based employment),” one Democrat wrote.

Eighty-one percent of Democrats strongly or somewhat agreed that Ryan’s presence on the GOP ticket would help Obama win senior citizens’ votes in California, while 90 percent agreed with the statement: "Now that Ryan is on the ticket, Democrats can win by running against Ryan's existing budget plans and particularly his proposal for Medicare."

Republicans: Choice Will Energize GOP Base

Republicans who responded to the unscientific survey cited Ryan’s fiscal conservatism and ability to appeal to the GOP base as strong selling points.

The pick “shows Romney is serious about addressing fiscal and economic issues,” one Republican wrote.

“It provides a theme for the Romney campaign that didn't exist before,” added another. “It also hopefully moves the dialogue away from Romney's personal finances and experiences at Bain Capital.”

Forty-eight percent of Republicans agreed that Ryan could help win over California’s undecided voters, while 43% disagreed and 10% were neutral.

“It will definitely energize the GOP base, but him on the ticket doesn't suddenly put California in play,” one insider commented. California hasn't gone for a Republican presidential candidate since favoring George Bush over Michael Dukakis in 1988

Regardless of California’s fate, more than three-quarters of Republicans disagreed that the Democrats could win nationally by attacking Ryan’s budget plans, while only 10% agreed. And some even expressed hope that Californians could learn from the VP pick’s tough talk on budgeting.

“The pick of Ryan will help educate voters in California about the importance of limited government and how we cannot spend our way into prosperity,” wrote one Republican.

Insiders from both parties characterized Ryan as smart and charismatic.

“Whether or not someone agrees with his politics, the Paul Ryan VP candidacy provides a worthy adversary to the Obama-Biden campaign and a clear distinction between the two tickets,” one Democrat wrote.

Patch’s Red and Blue California Surveys

Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican and Democratic activists, party leaders and elected officials in California. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all responded to this weekend's questions.

Patch will be conducting Red California and Blue California surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of conservatives and liberals on the ground in California. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in weekly surveys that last just a few minutes, please email Sandra.Oshiro@Patch.com.

Red California Survey roster: Richard Adams (Studio City Neighborhood Council safety chief); Gary Aminoff (San Fernando Valley Republicans president); Michael Antonovich (Los Angeles County supervisor); Steve Baric (California Republican Party vice chair); Tony Beall (Rancho Santa Margarita City Council member); Susan Blau (Studio City political activist); Dion Bracco (Gilroy Council member, mayoral candidate); Daniel M. Brown (San Francisco GOP Central Committee member); Sue Caro (Alameda County GOP chairwoman); Scott Carpenter (Orange County political blogger); Tamara Colbert (Tea Party member); John Colbert (Former Republican candidate for Congress); Dylan Conroy (Greater Toluca Lake Neighborhood Council representative); Irene DeBlasio (Republican activist); Steve Detrick (Elk Grove City Council member) Ben DiBenedetto (Studio City Neighborhood Council board member); Jane Diehl (Redondo Beach school board member); Chip Dykes (Oceanside City Council candidate); Laura Emdee (Redondo Beach school board member); Heidi Gallegos (Rowland Unified School District Board member); Andrew Gayner Carmichael (Patch blogger); Mike Gin (Redondo Beach mayor); Gil Gonzalez (State Senate candidate); David Hall (Mt. San Antonio College Board trustee); Alex Keledjian (La Canada Flintridge Young Republicans president); Ernest Koeppen (La Canada Flintridge resident); Becky Kolberg (Contra Costa GOP chair); Bob Kowell (Murrieta-Temecula Republican Assembly president); Greg Krikorian (State Assembly candidate); Jim Light (Balanced-growth advocate); Patrice Lynes (Activist); Morgan Martinez (former governor aide); Larry Masuoka (San Juan Unified School District Board member); Brad McGirr (Rancho Santa Margarita planning commissioner) Gina McNelley (Capistrano Valley Republican Women Federated member) Bridget Melson (East Bay Tea Party chair); Mark Meuser (State Senate candidate); Nathan Mintz (Former AD66 candidate); Larry Molton (California GOP member); Roger Niello (Sacramento County Chamber of Commerce president); Gayle Pacheco (Republican Women Federated member); Chris Pareja (Congressional candidate); Al Phillips (State Assembly candidate); Al Restivo (Former La Canada Republicans Club president); Matt Rexroad (Yolo County supervisor); Elizabeth Sanford (political consultant); Scott Schmidt (Former LA Chapter Log Cabin Republicans president); Howard Schmidt (Chief of staff for Sacramento County supervisor); Nick Shih (Activist); Suzanne St. John (Activist); Mary Su (Walnut mayor); Gino Sund (Altadena Town Council member); Peter Tateishi (State Assembly candidate); Brad Torgan (LA Chapter Log Cabin Republicans president); Steve Vaus (City budget review committee member); Bob Walters (Former San Juan Unified School Board member); John Webb (Businessman).

Blue California roster: Armando Gomez (city councilman); Anita Avrick (school board member); Michael Barber (supervisor); Reginald Bronner (assembly candidate); Kathy Bisbee (CMAP executive director); Jennifer Browning (campaign volunteer); David Burruto (county party chair); Ralph Carhart (recreation and parks district board member); Cat Tucker (mayor pro tempore); Nancy Chaires (planning commissioner); Jay Chen (congressional candidate); Norman Chramoff (party member); Ken Cooley (city councilman); Joice Corridori (political activist); Payne Domingo (school board trustee); Don Helverson (teacher); James Donnelly (Democratic Club president); John Duran (city councilman); Pablo Espinoza (media director); Lucas Frerichs (city councilman); Gary Blenner (teacher); Gary Giacomo (Democratic Club member); Joanne Gifford (DNC delegate); Alan Haskvitz (teacher); Lindsey Horvath (city council member); Howard Hwang (party member) Ilona Saari (author); Juliana Inman (city council member); Jeff Kravitz (attorney); John Walker (neighborhood council president); Sarah Johnson (community activist); Jessie Kallman (Democratic Club executive director); Michael Kapp (political activist); Ro Khanna (former Obama administration official); Kris Kingdon (former chamber executive director); Karen Knecht (Democratic Club member); Keith LaMar (activist); Kristina Lawson (city council member); Linda Rubin (party member); Todd Loewenstein (school board member); Mary Ann Mancuso (party member); Marc Perkel (church founder); Marla Hart (party member); Marsha Grilli (school board member); Jennifer Mason Wolfe (teacher); Michelle Garcia (party member); Richard M. Mathews (LACDP vice-chair, Region 1); Gary Miller (county party central committee member); Katrina Morales (activist); Harry Munns (harbor commissioner); Mark Nielsen (former mayor); Don Nottoli (supervisor); Peter Arellano (council member); Jeffrey Prang (mayor); Diana Prola (school board member); Kish Rajan (city council member); Tony Santos (former mayor); Tim Sbranti (mayor); Jane Schafer-Kramer (labor union activist); Bob Schelen (county party chair); Darren Suen (former city council candidate); Joe Terry (talk show host); Robin Torello (Democrat Club chairwoman); James Tsai (party member); Mark van Gorder (supervisor candidate); Vince Monroy (communications director); Jill Wain Meniatis (Democratic Club member); Lee Walkup (party member); Sheila Young (former mayor); Laurence Zakson (convention delegate)

Sandra Oshiro contributed to this report.

What do you think about Mitt Romney's choice of a running mate? Tell us in the comments.

Robert Livesay August 13, 2012 at 06:13 PM
I noticed that the red members were identified where they were from in most cases. Not so with the blue members. Why was that.
Robert Livesay August 13, 2012 at 06:15 PM
JB do you consider the Patch to be liberal like AOL and the Huffington Post? I think the Patch is very Liberal.
Dennis Lowry August 13, 2012 at 06:29 PM
Bob, Do you think it possible to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative? For the short time I have known JB I find this to be more true than not. I find the Patch to be similar to that of the editor. What really makes me significantly disappointed is the personal attacks that cause distractions, either by omission or commission, from the subject at hand. This author is stating their opinion; not the opinion of the Patch or the Editor. As a start how about just commenting on the material submitted vs. tangent discussions?
Steve Bahr August 14, 2012 at 02:07 PM
http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/plan/estimates.htm http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/appendix-ii-table.pdf My previous comment, neither party is fiscally conservative. Not a fan of his social positions, but Ron Paul was the only applicant who can really be called one.
Benician August 14, 2012 at 03:00 PM
How is Ryan a 'fiscal conservative'? He voted for both Bush tax cuts...unpaid for. He voted for both Bush wars...unpaid for. He voted for Medicare Part D...unpaid for. Why do we have a huge deficit? The five votes described above account for the overwhelming majority of the deficit. And, the Ryan budget would explode the deficit further. Fiscal conservative? Really???
Benician August 14, 2012 at 03:03 PM
If you think the Patch is liberal, it's only because it reflects the views of our community. Benicia leans left. It's reflected at the polls on every Election Day.
lubov mazur August 14, 2012 at 04:12 PM
My mom quoted Stalin (she knows because she lived through his famines),"When my belly is full nobody is hungry." Same applies to PR's "fiscal conservatism".
Robert Livesay August 14, 2012 at 04:30 PM
Dennis the Patch is very Liberal. The parent company is Liberal. I have watched the Patch for a few years and know the difference. I will comment as I see fit. I call it as I see it. I asked a question of JB. He should be able to answer it. I know where I stand and have made that very clear. I am a very conservative person both fiscally and socially as it effects the finance side. Dennis read the other comments and tell me they stick to the subject at hand. They do not nor does your comment to me.
J.D. O'Connor August 14, 2012 at 04:37 PM
Morning, Robert... I don't know, I think there's a case to be made that each individual Patch reflects the ideals of its respective editor. Painting the whole organization with that one broad brush seems, to me, to be a reach. Some Patches may be considered liberal while others outright conservative. There are 857 or so of us so there's room for that sort of swing...
Patricia McMinn August 14, 2012 at 05:44 PM
The OBAMA BUDGET has exploded the budget astronomically more than any other president!!
Benician August 14, 2012 at 05:54 PM
@Patricia: Really? Care to document that? Every president increases spending. Did you know that the increase under Obama is the lowest in the last FORTY years? I'm sorry if letting facts get in the way destroys your meme.
Benician August 14, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Facts have a liberal bias.
lubov mazur August 14, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Patricia Put in the most simple terms, did someone ever run up too much debt and you had to try to pay it all off? Did it take you more than three and a half years to cover your expenses while paying off the other guy's mistakes and cleaning up his messes? Me neither, but I'm watching Obama do it. Try taking a look at where the debt came from and then start assessing blame.
Robert Livesay August 14, 2012 at 06:25 PM
JD O'Connor the Patch is located in many cases in very Liberal parts of the country. NE, Mid-Atlantic, East Coast and of course California. That is where they find some success. I kinow they try to pick up where newspaper have reduced coverage. AOL is putting money into Huffington Post very strongly. I see the Patch regionalizing there operation and continue to reduce paid staff. Their pay is low for employees. So they must cut to stay in business. It would not surprisre me to see them go out of business by early 2013. I hope not but it does not look good on a national scale. Maybe in certain regions like the bay area they will thrive because of the very liberal leaning population. The Patch is now in the areas where they should thrive if not it is all over. Not good. I stand by my statement about thye Patch being Liberal. That is OK.
J.D. O'Connor August 14, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Okay, Robert. We stand by your stand to make a statement! Good luck out there.
David Cohen August 14, 2012 at 07:48 PM
who is JB?
David Cohen August 14, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Who is JB? And what does it matter whether or not the Patch is liberal?
Stewart Gooderman August 15, 2012 at 12:31 AM
Yes, Ms McMinn, what you are saying is simply not true. We can only solve our problems if we face up to them, and that means looking at cold, hard, facts. Not untruths. What I find interesting is that Rep Ryan admits that the Bush years were a disaster. So my advice to him is, you caused the problem, you and the people who supported you should pay for it. Don't ask me to pay for it. I didn't approve it.
Dennis Wanken August 16, 2012 at 06:07 PM
I am still waiting for those "shovel ready" projects to appear. Oh, that's right....Obama said these projects were not quite "shovel ready" when the Stimulus Program was doling out millions to contributors to their campaign. I wonder if Stimulus money was spent to settle with terminated Solyndra employees.


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