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Public Tush Test: Smaller BART Seats OK But Not Top Choice

Public tests of next-generation BART seats found many would accept narrower seats with wider aisles, although most preferred the current size. In cleanliness vs. comfort, plastic was favored over cushions.

The public posterior prefers the current width for the next generation of BART seats but favors the cleanliness of plastic over the existing comfort of cushion seats, according to results of public seat tests released by BART Wednesday.

BART is replacing its aging fleet of cars — the most expensive project in the transit system's history, not counting its original construction completed in 1972. During May and June, it held a dozen "community seat labs" where members of the public were invited to try out various seat options and answer questionnaires on their preferences.

"Some 2,200 Bay Area residents put their tushes to the test," BART said in a news release Wednesday.

Testers were asked about four different widths for the new BART seats, ranging from the current 22 inches to a narrowed 18 inches, and whether or not they thought the sizes were acceptable. In BART's report on on the tests, 75.6 percent said a narrower, 20-inch-wide seat would be "acceptable," with 18.9 percent disagreeing. The most popular choice was the current 22-inch width, with 86.8 percent voting "acceptable." A large majority (77.1 percent) said the narrowest option of 18 inches is unacceptable.

In a similar question about seat width, which reminded respondents that wider seats would mean smaller aisles, the 22-inch seat was still the top choice, garnering 39.4 percent over 37.2 percent for the 20-inch size.

Asked about armrests, 39.2 percent preferred seats without them, while 36.8 percent preferred seats with them.

When queried on the trade-off between comfort and cleanliness, or fabric-covered cushions vs. plastic, patrons said both were important but gave somewhat higher ratings to cleanliness.

On reconfiguration of the car interiors, no alternative to the current design was preferred by a majority of respondents, though nearly half (48.7 percent) said they would support removing several seats to make more room for bikes, luggagea and strollers. On the option of removing seats to make more room just for bikes, however, support dropped to 24.4 percent.

The results of the tests "generally mirror separate in-depth feedback collected earlier from a statistically selected group of BART riders," BART said.

You can find out more about the BART fleet replacement and provide feedback at www.bart.gov/cars

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nick mastick April 28, 2013 at 09:34 pm
Of all the concerns in our society, I put this just about dead last.
Steven Murphy April 17, 2013 at 02:25 am
Hmm. So I think you're telling me I need to add the countdown timers to the long list of BerkeleyRead More idiosyncrasies I need to ignore? I guess can do that. Thanks. --Murph
Alexander Sinclair Merenkov April 15, 2013 at 04:34 pm
This is very interesting. I bicycle and walk a lot around Berkeley. I think i know exactly whatRead More signal is being referred to the walk sign across Bancroft at MLK specifically will reset itself. many of the walk signals rely on induction loops which are loops placed in the ground that can detect Bicycles and Cars when the Bicycles or cars pass over them disrupting the current. You can often see these loops as they look like hexagonal saw cuts in the ground. Anyways the intersection detects traffic with these devices & if it doesn't detect anything then it assumes nothing is there and gives right of way to the major throughway in this case being MLK. So the reason the counter to cross Bancroft resets itself is totally logical because the intersection suspects no one is there and since that side of Bancroft is more or less residential there would be no point in setting that intersection to a timer where it gives priority to one light then the other & switches based on that & not on wether it detects any bicycles or cars passing over the induction loops. Also this is Berkeley and we are rather quirky and always have been so nobody exactly fallows the rules or knows about them its funny how simple crossing the street really is but its anything but simple in reality. Many people choose to jay walk if its safe to do so, this is typical on Shattuck at alston especially and makes sense for efficiency but isn't very safe or lawful. If the hand is flashing/Counting down dont cross!
Janet Scrivener April 6, 2013 at 11:15 pm
Actually, I just saw and spoke to him about an hour ago - the wire sculpture man. He'd moved downRead More Solano a few blocks, opposite Safeway. I asked him if the police had moved him off Colusa. He said he didn't want to talk about it. He wasn't in a very good mood. I told him that people had asked about him on a web local news site. He said, "People want to know how I'm doing? I need a car. I need somewhere to put my stuff in. To get off the streets. I don't want to sit around starving in public." I thought to myself, "Who do I think I am? A Girl Scout leader? Pollyana?" I realized my upbeat, cheery tone was really not what was needed just then. I said I couldn't help him with a car. "People want to know how I'm doing?" he said again. "Tell them that." I said, "I will." I turned to walk away, knowing only too well that the real needs that exist, yes, right here in our lovely, excellent neighborhood, are great and once you start giving you'll find it's difficult to get out of. He did say, "Thank you," as I left. He doesn't look like he's starving. But he's right about being out in public more than he would like to be. As a reasonable human being, I have to ask myself, what sort of person finds himself in that position? Ex con? Mental illness? Mind-blown Vet? Drugs? Alcohol? Incapacitated by an accident? An unforgivable act? Some combination of the above? Jesus did say, "The poor you shall have always with you." What would you do?
P. Park April 4, 2013 at 03:29 am
I agree Shattuck, especially right in front of the fire station is the scariest street around.
Mary April 3, 2013 at 06:45 pm
I am not disabled, but I am terrified of crossing streets nowadays because there are too manyRead More careless and aggressive drivers who act is if red lights, speed limits, and crosswalks either don't exist or don't apply to them. Shattuck in particular has become a nightmare to cross. Sometimes I have counted over 30 cars going by before one stops for the crosswalk. What we need is far more law enforcement - the tickets written would more than pay for the cost of hiring extra officers.